America – Til Underverse Come

30 Jul

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My new but already dear-to-my-heart friend over at Spirits and The Paranormal made a post yesterday about the her Maori heritage, and she and I got into a discussion in the comments about history and heritage, and I commented that I was envious about the fact that she (along with so many other cultures) had such a rich background to be rooted in and a part of. I bemoan the fact that as a 10+ generation American with nothing more exotic in my background than English and German ancestry that is so distant as not to even count, I have no ‘culture’ to claim as my own.

She replied the following:

But America has a lot to be proud of. You stood up to the English to get your Independence. That was a huge thing to be proud of and you ended slavery in the US. Okay it was 30 years after the Brits but you did it. Some countries still haven’t done that. You invented the mass production of the cars and lets not forget Motor City, Detroit produced so much at one point. You gave us Elvis and Motown. You don’t back down. You Americans do patriotism better than any other country on the planet. You perfected Space Travel. You should be proud. I can’t wait to come to AMerica. You have a rich culture, it’s just made up of every flag in the world but sometimes you need a big melting pot to make the best product.

But there’s no DEPTH to our history.  Greed, Oppression, Materialism.  That’s the foundation of this country.  Sure, we bucked the system once, and took our first steps, but in no time we forgot what it was like to be oppressed and became the oppressors, of native people and foreign alike.  Filling our coffers on the backs of others, the exact same way that it had been done to us.  We forgot the lessons learned in our fight for independence from a greedy, overbearing Monarchy, and although we paved our roads with good intentions, we still built them straight to hell.

We’d spoken before about how so many Westerners tend to ‘adopt’ and bastardize (my words, not hers) aspects of other cultures, and I’d made the comment that it was because we have none of our own.  There’s no rich cultural background to grasp onto when we feel lost, no sense of history or belonging, except a vague, uncomfortable sense of being invading conquerors of unsuspecting lands.  Like locusts, we have no home, just swarming, en masse, to new and untamed places, devouring all we come into contact with, ingesting and absorbing the cultures we encounter, leaving nothing in our wake except the bare bones of what were once rich and beautiful cultures and lands.

If you’ve ever seen The Chronicles of Riddick, then you will know what I mean when I liken Americans to the Necromongers, determined to conquer all peoples in their quest for the Underverse.  They fly in, round everyone up, and tell them join us or die.  Once you join, who you were, your culture, your traditions, are swallowed up, and you become one of the herd, who you used to be forgotten in the quest for Underverse (a place you neither knew nor cared about before the Necromongers arrived on the scene).

It makes me unbearably sad, this sole legacy that we have to pass down to our children.  Liars, thieves, tricksters… an inability to harmonize with others; this is our legacy, our traditions, the history we pass down to future generations, but yet we glorify it.  We tell heroic tales of fights for independence and pioneering new lands, instead of calling it what it is: insatiable greed and a lust to obtain all we see.

I think the reason so many Americans adopt (and yes, bastardize) other cultures, especially those with a strong history in the spiritual or metaphysical, is because we sharply feel the lack of depth in our own roots.  We subconsciously sense that, although the tree is big and tall and its branches spread wide and high above the ground, its roots are shallow.  They do not reach into the earth and pull up the nutrients and sustenance that lie deep in the history of mankind.  The base absorbed all the good stuff while it was still a sapling, and we, the new growth, are left struggling, fighting to draw anything we can up the trunk of the past to give us strength.

Just to be clear: I’m not trashing America, I do love my country.  I’m not saying that we haven’t accomplished great things, or produced some great people,  I just deeply wish that we had something more significant than a tea party to bring to show-and-tell with the other kids, yanno?

23 Responses to “America – Til Underverse Come”

  1. astraltravler July 30, 2013 at 12:57 pm #

    Very Tastefully, and Tactfully Composed. And Oh Sooo True


    • KraftedKhaos July 30, 2013 at 1:02 pm #

      Thank you.

      I truly am not bashing my country, simply trying to express how lacking I often feel about my background, as an American, in comparison to other cultures. 🙂 Thanks for understanding!


  2. spiritchild1972 July 30, 2013 at 1:14 pm #

    Your 10th Generation American. Do you know how amazing that is? I’m not 10th Generation anything. Your roots are deep seated in the foundations of your country. There is no Brit that can claim to be 10th generation British and yet your ashamed of that? Really? The Queen isn’t even 10th Generation British. You might have a country embroiled in Political distrust ( as do many countries at the moment) and your not treated well by the State (as do most countries) but we aren’t talking about now, we are talking about the past. Your country has JFK, Martin Luther King, Medger Evers, Rosa Parks, Helen Keller, Abraham Lincoln, Malcom X, Michael Jackson, I honestly could go on and on. Your country is great because of peolple who made it great. It is the individuals standing together that makes a nation great. We have all fought wars. Not one of our country is free from war. ‘ Spirit just said to me ‘War is fought for wrong reasons by men thinking they are doing right’ not one of our nations is without blood on it’s hands. Your War on Independance was a brave war. And lets not forget 9/11. In the face of tragedy America held hands and helped those brave, heroes in the rescue efforts. Those Fire Fighters, Policemen and Paramedics are nothing short of Modern Day Warriors. Heores and Megalithic Angels. The was YOU who did that, not your government (well don’t get me started but) The American people rallied around those brave men and woman, not the Government. Spirit just said ‘A country isn’t defined by the person elected to serve but by the people they serve’ Always remember that. Your history serves as a lesson, all our historys do. May the bad stuff never be allowed to be repeated and may the good be repeated over and over and over again. You might not have a culture like mine. But you have a heritage and it’s 10th generation. Your one of the lucky ones who can say You are a true American’, how many can say that?


    • KraftedKhaos July 30, 2013 at 1:39 pm #

      Well, it may not be 10… it’s been a few years since I brushed upon my family’s genealogy. It seemed like a lot, because I have a big family, but it may have been as few as 8, or as many as 12 or more on my mother’s side.

      And while I might be able to give my (imaginary) children a list of names, I can’t offer them traditions, ceremonies and a cultural history based on anything meaningful. The native americans respected mother nature, the land they occupied… In the video you posted the other day, your cousin was praying, asking for protection for the native trees, for the land… Eastern tradition and religion promoted living in harmony with the earth and ourselves. Even when they fought, it was for honor, self respect… there was a code. America fought once for self respect, we almost had the right idea, but we were again blinded by greed.

      I guess it could possibly be that I’m feeling that a core of respect is lacking in American history? Respect for the land, respect for others, and a respect for balance and peace within ourselves.


      • spiritchild1972 July 30, 2013 at 2:54 pm #

        but you don’t get it. All these cultures came together to make America. You could say Americas culture is everyone elses lol If it bothers you, why don’t you make a culture for yourself? Find what America and being American means to you in your deepest soul and bring that out in you. When you think of the land, the music, the food etc…you too can thank the trees and earth and sea for giving you food. We Maori aren’t the only ones who do it, why can’t you? If you think about what it means to be America To YOU, find a way of expressing it. Besides Red Necks were called Red Necks because of the Scottish that came over, they couldn’t handle the heat and would get sun burnt necks. so your Scottish somewhere along the line lol As for Moonshine,
        It was after the highland clearances when many scots were thrown out the highlands, they settled in the southern states and continued to make there whisky. These scots believed in little or no government as they had suffered endlessly at the hands of the gov. They held true to three core beliefs the right to bare arms, the right to make your own booze and the right to grow your own weed. To this day they hold firm in those beliefs and also believe any gov is out to get them hence the illegal manufacture of moonshine. So there is some Scottish in you girl lol


        • KraftedKhaos July 30, 2013 at 3:01 pm #

          LOL… mayhap. 😉 And I’m working on making my own … thing. It’s just hard to be a tribe of one 😉


          • spiritchild1972 July 30, 2013 at 3:08 pm #

            hey it has to start somewhere. Some where along the line it started with one. How exciting to be making your culture from scratch. Keep us posted xox


  3. Joshua Bagby July 30, 2013 at 4:32 pm #

    Excellent post! I have lamented that after watching most documentaries by Ken Burns or episodes of American Experience on PBS, I have lost a lot of pride in being American. (I am 11th generation on one side and 12 on the other.) So many awful things have been done in the name of progress and “freedom” that have caused untold millions to suffer greatly. Like you I still love my country, but I am disappointed in much of its actions, especially for reasons of national and corporate greed. I still have hope that we’ll change course and become a positive force in planetary affairs. Had to chuckle at SpiritChild1972’s remarks. On my father’s side, Bagby came from Scotland and landed in Jamestown, VA.


    • KraftedKhaos July 30, 2013 at 4:57 pm #

      Thank you! I feel that there is a vast unrest in our country, individuals are beginning to feel the taint behind the progress, seeing the smudges on the rose-tinted glasses, so to speak, and are looking for an answer. I believe the problem lies in that we are so inhibited by the boundaries we have set between ourselves (who whispered in our ear that first ‘us vs them’, I wonder) that we are unable to unite and stand up for what we all know is right and good.

      Corporate Humanity knows that the best way to cut the opposition off at the knees is through dissension in the ranks. It’s a proven strategy. As long as they can perpetuate the in-fighting, we do all their dirty work for them.

      ‘United We Stand’ isn’t just a pretty slogan, some outdated ideal that looks nifty on our money, it’s the secret, hiding in plain sight, to stop the decline of not just our own country, but humanity as a whole, and it starts not in standing united, but in refusing to allow ourselves to be divided.


    • KraftedKhaos July 30, 2013 at 5:01 pm #

      Oh, and thank you for taking the time to visit and leave a comment! Much appreciated!


    • spiritchild1972 July 31, 2013 at 5:24 am #

      Joshua, I can understand what your saying. You have every right to be ashamed of what is going on in the US and in the name of it’s people right now. BUT you all have the power to change it and you will. Ever since I was 18 I’ve been having images of what I called The Cleansing. A World Wide revolution, where the people stand up to the governments that oppress them. I said it would start with the White Haired man and the truth would start with him. His truths would start to set the world free. In walks Julian Assange 20 years later. This cleansing will be quick and brutal. I described it years later as V for Vendetta meets the LA riots but all over the country. And the Geeks shall inherit the earth. In walks Annonymous and the Guy Fawkes mask. I predicted this stuff and it is documented with a trusted friend since 2003. Everything is playing out the way I saw it and I promise you, America will be the great and respected country it deserves to be. America will belong to the people. It will start with the US and 4 other big powers will follow. Once it is over there will be loss of life and blood shed and anger but the truth will set your country free and in just a few short weeks you will rebuild your country based on truth and honesty and love. In the end there will be no poverty, cures for cancers and other diseases will be released to the public, vaccines will be stopped, chemicals will be removed from food and water. Banks won’t exist, Corporate Suits will if they survive go into hiding. Many people will be arrested and charged with crimes, they will include, Bankers, Big Business, Politicians, Ex Presidents, Celebrities etc…anyone who made money of the poor and sick and innocent. I know this all seems far fetched but if you saw my scribbled predictions dating back to when I was 18 (I’m 40 now) you would understand. I believe they may try and do something with your President and this might be what kicks it off. I know they are going to do something in public that will be their down fall. Too many cameras around. I thought it might of been the Boston Bombings but while noone I know of believes it was terror attacks, some still do and this won’t happen the next time. Next time the attack will be undeniably staged. You’ll start to see people of power trying to distance themselves from it and pointing fingers to redirect the heat off themselves but once the storm is over, all of these people involved in anything dodgy over the last few hundred years will be held accountable. The truth shall set America Free. And it is coming. Within the next 12 months I feel. Keep your head down, get supplies in and stay off the streets when it happens. In a few weeks it will be over and you can start to rebuild your country. I said it would take about 20 years for America and the UK etc…to come to terms with the lies you have been told but you would have a better world because if it. I know I’m not the only one who has predicted this stuff now and now I’m not the only one who calls it The Cleansing. So if you know of anyone who has gotten wealthy off the pain, death or suffering of anyone else, watch what happens lol and keep your head down.


      • KraftedKhaos July 31, 2013 at 7:04 am #

        And that’s the post I put off until last to read. That’s the one that scared me to know. I’m not that far from the place you said it would start. I guess I should pack a bag, because, although I hope you’re wrong about the timing, I’d rather be safe than sorry. To have it and not need it, than need it and not have it, so to speak.

        Do your premonitions ever tell you if we’ll keep our technology? I’d really hate to lose touch with you, my friend 🙂

        And I know people may think I’m crazy for believing you (and that you’re crazy for saying it in the first place) but I’ve felt for a while that *something* was about to boil over, just nothing as specific as you have said. For me it’s just been a vague sense of unease about the world, our country.


        • spiritchild1972 July 31, 2013 at 7:33 am #

          Your in Virginia, your safe. My bestfriend in Michigan is too. But all I can say to you is this and I will be as tactful as I can because it’s gonna happen here too and in China, and Israel and the like. If you keep your head down and prepare for at least a month with no electricity and gas etc….if it doesn’t happen then you’ve not lost anything but time. I know if people keep their heads down and don’t get involved they will be fine. The people who will take to the streets and stare the tanks down and stuff are people who have been pushed to breaking point. Your houses are being taken by the banks, people being kicked onto the streets with babies and children, people are getting arrested for feeding those families living in tents, the chemicals being allowed to be put into food and water, noone allowed to practice the right of free speech, etc…people have had enough and something is going to happen that will make people snap. 10 years ago I saw this madness of people choosing death over living with the shame of being bankrupt, but I saw streets apon streets of empty homes and men killing their families to safe them from the shame of being poor. People have had enough and your government is going to do something stupid and it will be the last thing they do. People will riot like you have never seen. BUT I also saw Soldiers stepping down from their tanks and joinging the riots, and Policemen taking their uniforms off and joinging in. They are going to burn buildings, and drag the rich and powerful out of their homes. If someone has been badly wronged, they will go after those who wronged them. People with the likes Hilary Clinton and George Bush, Donald Trump and any Banker, Business Owner or Invester or Lawyer who has been involved in crimes against the innocent won’t be able to even rely on their security staff because they will all get dragged out and beaten. Some of these people in power won’t survive. And the After life is waiting for them too. People will see this as an invitation to lose their minds for a few days. If you keep out of it, and keep your head down you will be fine. Keep your lights off, have a months worth of supplies and kep quiet, you’ll be fine. It’s not an apocolypse for you, but it will be for the ones who have done wrong to get rich and powerful. This is the end of the world AS We KNOW it. We have only ever known a world of war and greed and hate and suffering and famine and anger. This will bring all that to an end because after the civil unrest will come peace. No one man or woman will ever be allowed to rule again. No one person will have power. No wars without consent etc…but if noone is hungry, or homeless and sick and dying of disease etc….if noone is in poverty, and I mean no one on this planet. Then noone will be scared and aggressive and everyones opinion will matter. We will do things like make education, food, medicine and shelter a basic human right for all human beings. We will take all that money back off the government and bankers and the like and use it to fix what they have broken. And yes some brave souls have chosen to give their lives for the greater good. They will be heroes and martyrs. But they are doing it so you and our future generations can be free. This planet has been pushed to breaking point. She is a living energy and all these disasters are happening because she is upset. All energy reacts and she is an energy. Spirit told me disasters would come before it kicked off and it is daily now. So every time you hear of someone dying in a riot in Egypt or Syria or anywhere, being dragged off by police and beaten, or killed because they speak the truth, thank them. Because they are doing it for you and us and our future generation. There is going to be a lot of broken souls when the truth starts coming out about what we have been allowing to happen, but we will all deal with it together. But everyone I talk to say they feel like something is about to happen, or they feel like they are waiting for something to happen. That’s because we are energy and like animals around a watering hole that become nervous when a lioness is in the grass, so do we when we know trouble is around the corner. But this has to happen. Without it we are doomed. There is rumour going around the Government are going to fire something in the sun to affect crops and stuff in September that is going to affectively kill off millions of people. And I am here to say That will never be allowed to happen. I have it on very good authority this won’t be allowed to happen and I trust that authority with my life. I also want to say I had a medical check up and apart from my stomach issues I am in perfect health. My bloods were good and so was my vital statistics. It is on record I am free from disease. I am of happy mind and soul and love life and our car passed it’s checks and is in good running order. lol hahahaha (I thought I better say that just in case).I don’t want to be the next Anna Nicole Smith or Britney Murphy etc….


          • KraftedKhaos July 31, 2013 at 7:41 am #

            I thought you said all this would happen in/around DC? I’m only 2 hours away from there by car. My biggest concern would be making it from where I live with my Love to my parent’s house. There’s nowhere on this earth which I would feel safer, other than an underground bunker, like in ‘Blast From the Past’ (I love that movie, btw, LOL).


            • spiritchild1972 July 31, 2013 at 7:48 am #

              I only just watched that for the first time a couple of weeks ago lol It is good.
              Being in Virginia 2 hours away is a lot different to being in the city of DC. Noone is going to be thinking about coming to you while they are angry and wanting to cause damage. If anything your biggest worry will be swarms of people coming through your way to get North. But even people in DC will be safe if they stay in doors and keep their heads down. And as long as you haven’t done anything to hurt someone else, noone will have any reason to come to you. My advice would be as soon as it looked set to kick off head North or lock yourself in your house with supplies and don’t let people know you have supplies. This whole thing will last 2-3 weeks tops I feel but the clean up and after affects will last about 20 years. We all have a lot of trusths to learn after it happens and some countries like yours have some BIG lies to come to terms with. But I know your going to be safe because I asked Spirit days ago lol 😛


              • KraftedKhaos July 31, 2013 at 8:06 am #

                Aww. Thank you. I’m not worried about my brothers (who both live practically a stone’s throw from my parents), it’s mainly myself and (of course) my Love. We literally have to go over the river and through the woods, LOL. They don’t live in a neighborhood, and their house isn’t visible from the road, unlike where we live, which is why, if anything should happen on that type of scale, I would feel safest there… plus, that’s home. I always feel safest there, lol.

                OH! I haven’t had a chance to tell you… I finally got my book the other day, the one I’ve wanted for ages (I’ll shoot you an e-mail about the details of how it came to my attention)! I’m so excited!


  4. Jeff Brown August 11, 2013 at 11:51 pm #

    I agree… but I don’t think that Americans don’t have culture, I think we have simply lost touch with our culture. We have lost all sense of ‘ourselves’ & part of the problem is that the Truth about our culture was left out of our history books. If you are interested, there is a book called “Alter Your Life” by Emmet Fox & in that book there are two chapters that really pointed me in the right direction. One chapter is “The American Spirit” & the other is “The Historical Destiny Of The United States Of America”. Those two chapters opened my mind & sent me on a journey that taught me that the same group of people that built King Solomon’s Temple also built the Washington Monument. We actually have a very rich history, it just isn’t being taught to us anymore… we have to go digging for it. I wish you all the best in your search for the American culture… & when you find that Truth, please share it with others who are searching for the same. Maybe someday we can find ourselves again in this country!


    • KraftedKhaos August 11, 2013 at 11:53 pm #

      Thank you for such a thoughtful comment, and for recommending that book. I will definitely try to check it out.

      They say the Truth shall set you free… and I fear that it is the only thing that will save our country from destruction, but we won’t realize it until too late.


      • Jeff Brown August 12, 2013 at 12:08 am #

        I hope we don’t have to learn the hard way, but that is definitely the direction that we are headed in.


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      Thank you for the comment and the follow 🙂 I’ve followed you as well. Looking forward to reading more from you!


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